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May 23, 2013
1. RE:How about a new Structure to go with dues?... Cindy Hammer
2. How about a new Structure to go with dues? You... Ann Piraino
3. Room Available at EFAM JoAnn Panuska
May 22, 2013
4. RE:bylaws Mary Gayle Thomas
5. RE:bylaws Tarah Remington Brown
6. bylaws Mary Gayle Thomas
May 19, 2013
7. RE:Proposed Amendment #16 Ann Piraino
8. Proposed Amendment #16 Ann Piraino
May 16, 2013
9. Roommate needed for 2013 EFAM Tari Tibbits
May 13, 2013
10. RE:Emails that sound like threats from HQ Cindy Bahm


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RE:How about a new Structure to go with dues? You know you are ...
From: Cindy Hammer
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 23, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: RE:How about a new Structure to go with dues? You know you are thinking it – this is me saying it.
Message:
I can't say change isn't needed.  But my chapter has grown by leaps and bounds the last couple of years.  The reason is that area employers are embracing the value of IAAP and sponsoring employees to get certified and attend the education sessions included in our monthly meetings.

All your facts are issues we still contend with, but I believe the key to getting IAAP reinvigorated is to do whatever it takes to draw in younger members.  Have you taken a look at the EFAM photos?  We need a new generation to recognize the value of investing in one's administrative career.  Our headquarters staff is now young.  The structure at EFAM is improving.  I like the top-down changes I've seen in the last couple of years.

Members want a "good" meeting, whatever that means...enthusiasm, quality speakers, timely topics, maybe just networking in new ways.  When we have the magic formula to a "good" meeting the excitement will turn into INVOLVEMENT and things will turn around quickly.

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Cindy Hammer
Treasurer for Las Colinas Chapter (Texas-Louisiana Div.)
Exxon Mobil Corporation
Irving, TX

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How about a new Structure to go with dues? You know you are thi...
From: Ann Piraino
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 23, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: How about a new Structure to go with dues? You know you are thinking it – this is me saying it.
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following eGroups: EFAM General Discussion and Recruitment & Retention .
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Fact:  We are losing members - whether economics, interests, geography, they go. Intervention:  We try to recruit using traditional methods, make special dues deals, hunt down MAL and prior members, and hold membership drives where maybe 1 in 10 may join - an incentive is being part of MOE.  We may lower our chapter dues or waive them for a time period; same at division level.

Fact:  Members are a lot less interested in holding office or even attending in-person meetings.
Intervention:  We have fewer officers and sometimes fewer meetings; that means no BOD but business at the program meetings or business telephonically, through e-mail or other means.  Again, an incentive is being part of MOE.  My chapter has 2 officers:  President and Treasurer; my Division has 3: President, Secretary and Treasurer.  At least one chapter in our Division has no officers going forward.

Fact:  As members dwindle or do not participate, we lose chapters.  Sometimes we lose chapters because we build new ones and strip out the existing chapters for members or 'use up' their territory.
Intervention:  Division and District officers and members of other chapters try to come in and help out at the chapter level, and we still make a special 'prize' for new chapter building in the DOE.

Fact: As members leave, the funds necessary to run the chapter/division dwindle.  We need to come up with new fund raising techniques but many have been tapped out or ruled inappropriate for non-profit, volunteer organizations.
Intervention:  We do more will less; change venues for lower priced meals, parking, facility fees; we get program speakers who will work for a meal or a very small fee; we do more of our own programs using CYC, Avery, Office Team (when available).  We try to partner with close chapters to do auctions, seminars, and do ways & means projects at the annual division meetings.  We raise our dues.

Fact: As the members, chapters and divisions struggle, so does the entire organization of IAAP.  We cannot support needed benefits and services or attract new members in new ways.
Intervention:  We push the burden down to the member, chapter and division level.  We raise the dues if we can get the proposal passed.  We ask for contributions to The Foundation in cash and, this year at EFAM, 3 silent auctions from each Division - this puts more financial burden on the chapters and divisions to do more with less, get needed donations from existing resources sometimes at the risk of over-use when we could use their products and services for either our own fund raising or benefit.

Many more facts and interventions have, are and will need to occur.  But, what if we changed tactics altogether and just changed the structure?  Since Futures came up with such great initiatives, why can't we go forward with them?  $690,000 shortfall. . .

Many, many organizations are not member-driven like IAAP.  They may not even have an elected board of directors.  Several to which I have belonged for professional purposes don't have individual units (chapters, clubs, divisions, areas, districts) - just a central HQ either National or International).  I still have a say in the voting of a BOD (proxy vote or on-line voting these days) who take care of the governance of my associations/organizations but I can use all my $$ the way I see fit - attend events (some free, some not) or do on-line training, webinars, etc.

Think about that.  If we have higher dues at the International level. . .but no other dues. . .what could we do?  Huge things!  We could update our technology.  We could have more cutting/leading edge services, benefits, branding, recruitment techniques - have a huge presence in social media.  We could capture all types of individuals out there who are not joiners but want the training and on-line connections we can provide to assist them in their careers.  Interesting concept - that's how ASAP and ASEAP came to be - filling that need and that niche.

Now, that would be a huge transformation for IAAP.  We would derive funds to put certification exams on line and make the 'discount' for membership in the fee more of a benefit to IAAP.  Maybe we would lose the leadership track but we experience huge amounts of burnout there as officers continue to recycle.

On the other hand, we could also end the debate about categories of membership and their 'ability' or 'authority' to hold office; about whether current employment is a requirement to hold office; whether we needed any Standing Committees when nobody would 'step up' or we recycled prior chairs.

Wouldn't that be an interesting future?

 



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Ann M. Piraino, CAP, CRC
Retired - Professional-Merited Member
Mount Rainier Chapter R&B Chair
Mount Rainier Chapter Parliamentary Advisor


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Room Available at EFAM
From: JoAnn Panuska
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 23, 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: Room Available at EFAM
Message:

I was able to obtain a room at a EXTEMELY good rate but now unable to attend.  Can't cancel but if someone needs a room, willing to pass on the savings.  It's a $111 a night at the Holiday Inn and Suites Anaheim, 1240 South Waltnut Street and could accommodate 4.  Email if interested for further details.

JoAnn.Panuska@hii-nns.com or 757-380-3948 
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[JoAnn Panuska
Administrative Assistant
Northrop Grumman Shipbuiilding - Newport News
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RE:bylaws
From: Mary Gayle Thomas
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 22, 2013 6:29 PM
Subject: RE:bylaws
Message:
Great!  I saw that posting, but since it's dated April 3, I didn't think those were the newest documents, and the documents listed in the post don't include date posted. Maybe that "feature" of the website can be improved sometime.

Thank you for your help.

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~Mary Gayle~
Mary Gayle Thomas CAP-OM
Past President
Golden Gate Chapter, IAAP
San Francisco, CA


Member of Excellence 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012


View Mary Gayle Thomas's profile on LinkedIn



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RE:bylaws
From: Tarah Remington Brown
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 22, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: RE:bylaws
Message:
Hi Mary,

All of the Bylaws and any position papers are listed in the International Library in the Bylaws folder. Here's a link: http://community.iaap-hq.org/Communities/Resources/ViewDocument/?DocumentKey=c584dcbe-67b6-44fa-b2da-973363ba9c37. All of the proposed Bylaws are in the ninth document from the top of this list.

Please let us know if you have further questions.

Regards
Tarah

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Tarah Remington Brown
Marketing Manager, IAAP
Kansas City, MO
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bylaws
From: Mary Gayle Thomas
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 22, 2013 5:59 PM
Subject: bylaws
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following eGroups: EFAM General Discussion and EFAM 2013 - Anaheim, CA .
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Is there one location, anywhere, that includes ALL the proposed bylaws amendments and all the position papers? 


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~Mary Gayle~
Mary Gayle Thomas CAP-OM
Past President
Golden Gate Chapter, IAAP
San Francisco, CA


Member of Excellence 2009-2010, 2010-2011, 2011-2012


View Mary Gayle Thomas's profile on LinkedIn



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RE:Proposed Amendment #16
From: Ann Piraino
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 19, 2013 9:53 PM
Subject: RE:Proposed Amendment #16
Message:
Found them as part of full package from 5.10.13. . .not my type of naming convention so it took me awhile to navigate search (easier than finding those delegate credential documents) but harder to find than the instructions in the eGroup appeared.

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Ann M. Piraino, CAP, CRC
Retired - Professional-Merited Member
Mount Rainier Chapter R&B Chair
Mount Rainier Chapter Parliamentary Advisor


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8.
Proposed Amendment #16
From: Ann Piraino
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 19, 2013 8:47 PM
Subject: Proposed Amendment #16
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following eGroups: EFAM General Discussion and General IAAP Discussion .
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Got the information on dues increase proposal and paper for Proposed Amendment 17.  Looking for what is Proposed Amendment 16. . .unsure of topic to search, didn't see on current lists, no clear update to full package - thanks for help.

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Ann M. Piraino, CAP, CRC
Retired - Professional-Merited Member
Mount Rainier Chapter R&B Chair
Mount Rainier Chapter Parliamentary Advisor


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9.
Roommate needed for 2013 EFAM
From: Tari Tibbits
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 16, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Roommate needed for 2013 EFAM
Message:
This message has been cross posted to the following eGroups: Arkansas-Oklahoma Division and EFAM General Discussion .
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I just now was able to secure a room for EFAM in Anaheim!  Yes!
I would really like to share that room with someone that would be willing to split the expense.  The dates I have booked are checking-in July 26 and checking out on August 1, 2013.

Any takers?

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Tari Tibbits
Executive Assistant
Oklahoma City, OK

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RE:Emails that sound like threats from HQ
From: Cindy Bahm
To: EFAM General Discussion
Posted: May 13, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: RE:Emails that sound like threats from HQ
Message:
I am one of the (many, I'm sure) unfortunate members who can't get a room at the Marriott Hotel. I am the only representative of my chapter attending EFAM and will be travelling solo from North Bay, Ontario, Canada.  This is not ideal and not nearly as fun as travelling with others, but I did it last year and feel that attending EFAM is worth it.

Last year, I had a room booked in Grapevine and advertised for a room mate to share hotel expenses.  I found one and it all worked out well.

This year, I don't have a room and would love to find a room mate who is willing to share their room.  I don't smoke and don't snore and am easy to get along with.  If you have a room at the Marriott and would like to share room expenses, get in touch with me.....cindy.bahm@sympatico.ca

Thanks!!
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Cindy Bahm
Administrative Assistant
Ontario Provincial Police

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